00:05:50 Morris -> MorrisZZZ 00:14:06 ! NM (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00:15:11 + NM (NM!NM@KD111104140094.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 00:15:16 Mode by Toyolina: #ぱそ@cre +o NM 00:19:58 ! Nantoka (Quit: Leaving...) 00:21:25 ! tatsu114 (Quit: Leaving...) 00:39:21 ! V-zEn (Quit: ノシ) 00:56:10 Cathy -> ash 00:57:35 ! ash (Quit: 無問題) 01:04:42 ! NM (Quit: Leaving...) 01:18:05 + SriVidyut (SriVidyut!SriVidyut@115x125x65x84.ap115.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 01:27:58 + NM (NM!NM@KD111104140094.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 01:28:23 Mode by Toyolina: #ぱそ@cre +o NM 01:42:22 ! LizardMen (Quit: 敵シールド分析完了、モニターに表示するよ！) 02:20:17 + akiraani_ (akiraani_!akiraani@KD119104146170.au-net.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 02:23:34 ! akiraani (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04:12:32 ! Balyoshi (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 04:33:01 + Balyoshi (Balyoshi!username@k161241.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 04:33:14 Mode by aba[AWAY]: #ぱそ@cre +o Balyoshi 05:27:57 ! 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SiIdeKei_ (Quit: 幸いにして次がありましたなら、またお会いしましょう。) 18:17:03 + SiIdeKei (SiIdeKei!SiIdeKei@server129.janis.or.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 18:17:17 Mode by aba[AWAY]: #ぱそ@cre +o SiIdeKei 18:21:39 + tatsu114 (tatsu114!tatsu114@ac098179.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 18:39:06 + LizardMen (LizardMen!LZD@dhcpg060.gctv.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 18:39:23 Mode by aba[AWAY]: #ぱそ@cre +o LizardMen 18:49:36 + aizawayu (aizawayu!aizawayu@106-184-114-102.catv296.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 18:58:09 + CHOBOJA (CHOBOJA!choboja@118.176.105.94) to #ぱそ@cre 19:23:14 + akiraani (akiraani!akiraani@KD119104146170.au-net.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 19:24:01 http://srad.jp/~akiraani/journal/600897/ 19:24:01 (Toybox) FetchTitle: 今更、ソシャゲのガチャ商法の話 | akiraaniの日記 | スラド 19:24:39 こないだのグラブルアンチラ事件を受け手の今後の動きについてなんとなく想像してみた 19:25:27 ちょっと前にコンプガチャ騒動ですでにイエローカードもらってるので、今回の事件でレッドカードもらってしまったのではないか、という気がしています 19:25:49 ソリャゲのガチャ商売って、あれもう一種の賭博ですよね、って話で 19:26:47 行き着く先はパチンコ同様に射幸性を刺激しすぎないガイドラインが国から提示されてそれに従うか 19:27:42 そんなの関係なしに荒稼ぎして目をつけられたらサービス終わらせて、また新しい名義で似たような商売始めるか 19:28:05 このどっちかに鳴るんじゃないかという気がする 19:28:38 で、アプリマーケットって業界団体作って自制するなんてのは非常に困難なので、公社の状況になる可能性が高いのではないかと 19:48:48 + Pikoyan (Pikoyan!UserID@p2219-ipngn1401funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp) to #ぱそ@cre 20:16:16 MorrisWork -> Morris 21:04:54 ! 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