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09:39:59 <asahiya> https://www.newsweekjapan.jp/stories/world/2017/07/post-7926.php
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09:39:59 (Toybox) FetchTitle: トルコの反政府活動家、苦肉の策の「無人ビラ撒きプリンター」 | ワールド | 最新記事 | ニューズウィーク日本版 オフィシャルサイト
09:40:09 <asahiya> 発想と実行力がすごい。
09:40:52 <asahiya> 当事者におかれましてはどなたもマジな話なんでしょうけど。
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10:08:17 <Yaduka> http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/20180504-OYT1T50040.html
10:08:17 (Toybox) FetchTitle: 消滅予想都市、人口減加速…８割の７１３自治体 : 政治 : 読売新聞（YOMIURI ONLINE）
10:08:29 <Yaduka> 奈良県すげぇ。３自治体も入ってるｗ
10:08:45 <Yaduka> ＜上位５以内に
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10:10:18 <Marcy> 5年でほぼ半減ってやばい
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10:10:58 <Yaduka> ただまあ、上北山村とか黒滝とかはとにかく不便なのよね…
10:11:20 <Yaduka> 交通の便が悪すぎる
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10:11:39 <Yaduka> まあ、奈良県南部なんか大体そうだけど。
10:11:44 <Marcy> 奈良はなぁ…
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10:12:00 <Marcy> 熊野の方とか結構な山だもんなぁ
10:12:20 <asahiya> https://mainichi.jp/articles/20140509/mog/00m/040/001000c
10:12:20 (Toybox) FetchTitle: 消滅可能性：全８９６自治体一覧 - 毎日新聞
10:12:36 <asahiya> 同じデータからかは分かりませんけど、一覧としてはこちら(？)
10:12:45 <asahiya> あ。数違うから別データですかねえ
10:12:48 <Marcy> 昔旅行で熊野に行った時
10:13:18 <Marcy> あー、そりゃ南朝も逃げ込みますわこりゃ、って納得した記憶がある
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10:15:12 <SiIdeKei> その、２０１４年に出したデータよりも加速してるってのが、記事の本題やな。
10:15:36 <Marcy> うむー
10:16:50 <Yaduka> まだ吉野川沿いなら交通もまだマシなレベルだからなぁ。下市はなんでか判らんけど、一度大淀に出ないといけないからかしら
10:17:07 <Yaduka> と元住民は思う。
10:17:12 <SiIdeKei> ２０１４年だから、東日本大震災の影響は織り込んでいるだろうけど、熊本地震とかは入ってないか。
10:19:46 <Marcy> 以前の発表の時に話題になった豊島区は、相変わらずかー
10:22:11 <Marcy> そしてわが故郷の愛媛はどうだと思ったら
10:22:33 <Marcy> 松山市以外の全自治体やばい（白目
10:22:53 <Yaduka> しかし、これもっとレイアウト考えろよとｗ　＜毎日の記事
10:23:42 <Marcy> 表にまとめるだけでかなり違うと思うんだがなぁｗ
10:29:53 <asahiya> ああ、なるほど。私の出した記事だと古い数字だったんですね。
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14:09:34 <NM> https://twitter.com/Sheol0x01/status/989095857797632000
14:09:35 (Toybox) FetchTitle: 西上 柾さんのツイート: "ファンタジー警察的な話でひとつ頭に浮かぶのは、どうしてみんな化繊にしか見えない下着を履いているのだろうか、というところである。"
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14:09:44 <NM> これに関して友人曰く
14:09:59 <NM> 「あのぱんつは現代のイラストレーターが後から書き加えたものなんだ」
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14:11:11 <NM> 「つまり、『この世界では下着は着けないのが常識ですが、公序良俗に配慮してぱんつを書き加えました』と但し書きをつければいいんだな」
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14:29:31 <syamo> Amazonの読書朗読サービスに加入してしまった
14:29:42 <syamo> audiolbe
14:30:04 <syamo> 無職転生を二冊分を聞く（合計15時間
14:30:26 <syamo> 無職転生は何巻まであるんや・・・Amazonでは18巻かよ！
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14:30:33 <syamo> 感想
14:30:39 <syamo> 運転しながらなど
14:30:46 <syamo> ながら作業では便利ですな
14:32:02 <syamo> あと落語もけっこうあります
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15:05:04 <Marcy> ファンタジー世界の下着問題に関しては
15:05:57 <Marcy> 「私、能力値は平均値でって言ったよね！」がネタにしていたな
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15:07:06 <Marcy> あの世界の女性用の下着は、基本的に生地がごわっごわのドロワーズなんだが
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15:08:14 <Marcy> 主人公のアデルが穿き心地を不満に感じてあれこれ改良した結果
15:08:45 <Marcy> なんとか　ひ　も　ぱ　ん　（のようなもの）にまで行き着くのだ
15:08:54 <Marcy> すらばしい
15:09:43 <Marcy> まあ結局同級生の少女たちから「破廉恥極まりない」ってことでアレなオチになるんだが
15:13:45 <Marcy> まーなんだ
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15:14:03 <Marcy> 水着とか出てくる回のイラストやアニメでも
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15:14:30 <Marcy> ビキニ等のデザインはともかくとして、基本体にぴったりな生地なんで
15:14:45 <Marcy> どう見ても化繊なんだけど
15:15:21 <Marcy> そこはまあシルクを使ってるとか、魔法の化学繊維を使ってるとか
15:15:28 <Marcy> 色々あるに違いない
15:17:25 <Marcy> デザインに関しては、古代ローマのモザイク画に今で言うビキニスタイルで運動する女性の姿が描かれてるんで気にしない事とする
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18:22:35 <AizawaYuMBA> なんかスポーツもあれこれ政治がらみとかいろいろあって楽しめなくなってきた……(；´Д｀)
18:23:07 <AizawaYuMBA> スポーツなんて体育会系の自慢大会に過ぎないのに（おい
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18:25:12 <AizawaYuMBA> Eスポーツだって色々不正とかあるしな……（遠い目
18:25:46 <AizawaYuMBA> でもつまらないTVのバラエティ番組よりかは野球中継のほうがマシに思えて
18:26:06 <AizawaYuMBA> なんだかなあ、と思う気分もある……。
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18:26:55 <AizawaYuMBA> ゲームよりネットバトルのほうが面白いとおもう自分は確実に病気だ（おい
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18:27:35 <akiraani_> プロゲーマーの話はまあ最初のうちだけの混乱だと思うよ
18:28:07 <AizawaYuMBA> というかMtGあたりを見習えよと＞プロゲーミング
18:28:08 <akiraani_> どうがんばったって「見てて面白い試合が出来るゲームタイトル」ってのは限られてる
18:28:52 <aokaze> 遊戯王アニメをリアルにやれるなら楽しかったかもしれない
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18:28:53 <akiraani_> スーパープレイヤーがスーパープレイを決めるからこそ「視聴者」がつくわけで、それができないタイトルはプロはやっていけない
18:29:05 <AizawaYuMBA> あれが開催側にしろ選手側にしろ理想のあり方の一つだとは思う
18:29:12 <AizawaYuMBA> ＞M;ｔG
18:29:52 <AizawaYuMBA> というかそれってリアルスポーツのほうが優れているじゃねえか・・・・・・・
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18:30:09 <AizawaYuMBA> ＞スーパープレイヤーがスーパープレイを決める
18:30:26 <akiraani_> ようするにスタープレイヤーが出てきやすい土壌を作ることができるか、
18:31:05 <akiraani_> これがしっかりで来ているところが5年後に残ってるところになるだろうと
18:31:20 <AizawaYuMBA> 要するに大谷や清宮を生み出せばいいって話なんだが・・・・・・
18:31:47 <akiraani_> まあ平たく言えば
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18:31:49 <AizawaYuMBA> まあタイトルによっては難しいかもな
18:32:27 <akiraani_> マルチタイトルのリーグ戦みたいなのもありかもね
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18:32:58 <AizawaYuMBA> まあ地上波かBSで流してみなきゃ、そういうスタープレイヤーの認知はどうかなあ、という気もする
18:33:49 <AizawaYuMBA> F1のエアトン・セナみたいに。
18:33:55 <akiraani_> 過去の分かりやすいのがウメハラのブロッキングのあれだよね
18:34:53 <akiraani_> あれこそまさに「スーパープレイヤーがスーパープレイ」
18:35:04 <AizawaYuMBA> すまないけどご飯とかに行ってくる
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